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Lately there’s been a fair amount of talk surrounding Crying-It-Out (CIO). After a piece was published on one woman’s admittance to doing CIO with her kids, others came forward to talk about how they too did it out of desperation. A lack of sleep, no social support, and a screaming baby are usually enough to send most moms (or dads) over the edge. We’ve all been taught that it’s okay to put a baby down and walk away when there’s a risk of harming your child (something I firmly believe in), but with this path of rationalization, I start to see people question the whole stance against CIO. After all, if we’re not suggesting a mom who does it when stressed out and frazzled will have to reap the negative repercussions of it, why are we able to say it for the mom who does it intentionally? It’s a good question and very tricky topic, one I hope I can navigate here without sticking my foot in mouth, but I make no guarantees, so please, just bear with me.
I want to first come out and say that CIO can have effects for your child, regardless of why you do it. There’s no reason to hide this fact and it’s not stated out of a desire to make moms who are stressed feel worse, but because I do believe there is an alternative we need to approach in our society (which I will get to further down) and to get people on board requires accepting that our behaviours have consequences, even if they’re the lesser of two evils. I’ve talked about the research in bits and pieces all over this site and I’ll attempt to give a summary here, along with some new research that’s in press as I type, ending with my own suggestion as to how to try and fix this.
1. The Sleep Reviews
Before I get into the evidence against CIO, I have to address the elephant in the room, which is that two reviews have been cited by sleep stores and trainers galore demonstrating no ill effects of sleep training. The first, in Sleep Medicine Reviews, simply states “no evidence of deleterious effects was found in these studies”
The second review, and probably more commonly cited, was in the journal Sleep[4] and included 52 studies while claiming to find no secondary effects for sleep training. The first problem here is that not all 52 studies actually examined side effects so it’s not like 52 studies didn’t find deleterious effects, only the ones that did study it found no deleterious effects. What are these potentially deleterious secondary effects examined? They are: attachment status, predictability, irritability, and crying/fussiness. Personally, predictability make no sense to me as secondary effect on the child’s well-being, but so be it. However, the examination of attachment status is highly interesting, if it has a chance at being different from the previous review. Again, though, only three articles were found that assessed attachment, not 52. Unfortunately, they all suffered the same flaws as mentioned above (and one of them was the same study, [3], as cited above), including the use of the exact same self-report measure for attachment (that’s supposed to be administered by a trained professional). Personally, I see none of this as providing much evidence of anything, except that sleep training helps parents. However, that’s me, but even if you accept the results of the reviews, no research that is based on children in the 16+ month range (the age range for this research) is at all applicable to children who are younger, which is when the vast majority of CIO techniques are used.
2. Neurological Evidence
I first covered the neurological stress response in My Baby Cries Too so you can read more there if you like. The stress response is high and immediate to all stressors at birth (even minor ones), but slowly starts to attenuate over the first year[5]. It does not, however, completely diminish, and this attenuation seems to be related to strong social regulation or parental buffering of stress (in the form of responsiveness to distress), suggesting that if during this period parents do not provide a buffer against the activation of the HPA axis, the attenuation will be less[5][6]. Furthermore, reviews of the effects of stress on the developing brain of human infants has been consistent in demonstrating that maternal separation continues to cause stress responses in the form of cortisol increases even in toddlerhood[5], and as you know, the basis of CIO is the separation of mother (or father) and baby.
The long term effects of heightened activity in the HPA axis (or situations known to result in heightened activity of the HPA axis) include depression as early as adolescence, reduced empathy, and behavioural problems[7][8]. What causes this heightened activity? It is not, as many sleep trainers would have you believe, due to “extreme” neglect and abuse. Sadly, many of these studies were done with normal families where the mother suffered post-partum depression and thus children fell into a category of slight neglect. In some cases, the stressor was simply when children had to separate from their parents at daycare. (Notably, this raises the very good question of what is the cost of sleep deprivation on PPD and a mother’s functionality versus something like CIO which I will get to further on.)
But the fact remains that no matter how logical it is to place the results of these other studies on a practice like CIO, none of them actually examined the neurological reactions of infants to CIO routines. So what is the specific neurological effect of CIO? The aforementioned reviews said there were no deleterious effects and while I hope I’ve convinced you it’s a bit of a disingenuous statement given what the research actually was, it also turns out that it might not be the case. In all of these previous sleep studies, no one had bothered to check the physiological stress responses of the infants, they simply made the assumption that if the infant stopped crying, the distress was gone. Now, if you read Educating the Experts – Lesson One: Crying, you know that there are various reasons why an infant ceases to cry, many of which are unrelated to the infant actually being “fine”. So I was thrilled to find out (from Eileen Joy over at Live With Purpose) that one researcher has actually started to do just this…
Wendy Middlemiss from the University of North Texas recently completed a study on infants’ stress responsivity to CIO or “extinction” programs[9]. She and her colleagues examined infants aged 4 months to 10 months who were in an in-patient sleep training program in New Zealand. In the program, mothers and infants are separated at night and infants are left to CIO while nurses check on them every 10-15 minutes to ensure they are safe and swaddled. At the start of the program, mother and infant cortisol levels were recorded and found to be highly synchronous. What does this mean? It means mom and baby were “in tune” with each other as their cortisol levels affects each other—as one’s went up or down, so did the other’s. In fact, the correlation between mother and infant cortisol levels was a whopping r=.776 during the day and r=.748 at night (note that the maximum value of a correlation is 1). This type of synchrony has been found to be associated with an infant’s ability to learn self-regulation and to develop emotionally[10], as well as being the foundation to secure attachment[11]. So despite mom being tired and run down, she was in a state of being able to form positive attachments with her child. Notably, during the day in this program, moms and babies spent their time together, ensuring there were lots of positive interactions (sound familiar, sleep experts?). However, by day three, the level of synchrony between mom and baby had decreased during the daytime to a correlation of r=.582 and at night to r=.422 (which was not significant, meaning it was not statistically different from 0). This lowered synchrony may result in worse attachment, particularly from the infant’s point-of-view as the manner in which infants affect mom’s cortisol is by signaling (or crying) and if they have stopped because they feel mom won’t respond, it should come as no surprise that attachment should be affected.
Even more telling, though, was that while the infants had ceased crying while going to sleep, presumably having learned to “self-settle”, their cortisol levels continued to spike. In fact, their cortisol levels were exactly the same as they were on day one when they were separated from their mother and everyone acknowledged the infant was in distress. So while they stopped showing any outward display of distress, internally they were highly stressed. This puts a wrench in the popular notion that the stress response for a baby undergoing CIO only lasts as long as the crying does. As the authors’ state:
“Although infants exhibited no behavioral cue that they were experiencing distress at the transition to sleep, the infants continued to experience high levels of physiological distress, as reflected in their cortisol scores.”
It will be interesting to see more of Dr. Middlemiss’ research and hopefully more longitudinal studies going forward. But at the very least, we should take note of her current findings. After all, most sleep sites and trainers try to use cortisol spikes associated with sleep deprivation to justify CIO methods (even though infants don’t develop regular night-wake cortisol cycles for 6-9 months, sometimes later[12]) and now it seems that spike might happen during CIO training.
3. Moms’ Mental Health versus Baby’s Brain Development
So now we get to the meaty issue – what about moms who have to leave their baby to CIO while they try to gain some sanity through sleep? The moms suffering post-partum depression who are at risk of so much more if left with a child who doesn’t sleep. First I want to address the issue of CIO for training purposes and for mental health purposes. While I stated above that there are effects of our actions, I also want to add that there still is a distinction between these two forms of CIO. Women who are trying to be as responsive as possible and thus losing sleep to wake with a baby every hour or two (or more) and utilize CIO every once in a while to get some sanity back are most likely more responsive in general to their children’s distress than parents who feel they need to train their children to behave as they would like. The reason for CIO becomes a confound, and a notable one. Yes, your child will show physiological distress to the CIO session, but a child whose parents feel he or she needs to be trained will most likely (but not always) show less responsiveness during non-sleep hours, compounding the distress and HPA-axis activation for the infant. And after all, it is through repeated behaviours that the most lasting damage is done.
But why should we pit it as mom’s mental health versus a baby’s brain development? Making it an either-or argument means someone has to lose. Doesn’t that just suck? And it doesn’t have to be that way (in the long run). This is where I’m going to go on again about community and the role us moms can play in helping other moms out. We need to find ways to be there for new moms so that mothers don’t have to make this awful choice. Personally I find it ridiculous that the only people you meet when going through pregnancy are other new moms. Yes, you can have a little support group which is nice, but really you can’t do much besides vent together and offer social support. And don’t get me wrong – social support is essential, but not as essential as instrumental support[13]. Mothers need someone there to help with the little things and perhaps even give mom a chance a sleep for a couple hours uninterrupted (because even if babe cries, an infant being held during a distressing time does not show the level of HPA-axis activation, if they show any activation at all [5][6]), and who better to do this than other moms? We know what it’s like – we’ve been there and have the empathy necessary to help new moms handle this transition.
Yes, there are post-partum and night doulas for new moms, and they are wonderful in myriad ways, but they’re also expensive. Not every new family can afford to have that person come in and help (though if someone also requires breastfeeding help or other forms of specific advice, I would highly recommend it). Some might argue that it should be a government program, like they have in France, in which a nurse comes to do home visits and stays for a bit to help new moms out. Sure, it’s great, but it’s also expensive (in the form of taxes) and it still doesn’t build the bonds between individual that can come if acts like this are done out of kindness and friendship. Frankly I would love to see a charity that just matched new moms with “old” moms who were willing to serve as friend and mentor. Yes, it would involve watching another baby sometimes, maybe even bringing a meal now and again, but I don’t know that there’s much more rewarding than helping another mom out and knowing you can be contributing to them being a happy dyad. And I’d like to think you’d have a friend for life from it and perhaps help that mom do the same for another mom down the line. In the meantime, I would suggest that if you have it in you, help a new mom out. Offer to hold her baby for a couple hours if she’s sleep-deprived and let her nap (if you’re already friends, this will probably be an easier sell), bring her a meal once in a while, even offer to help with laundry or grocery shopping if you can. I also firmly believe that if we cut out the idea that moms need to be isolated from everyone else and kill the ridiculous expectations that new moms are supposed to “do it all”, we would find that we could help people out enough to stop forcing moms to choose between their own sanity and the well-being of their infants.
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Mum for mum Sydney is a volunteer association run by the council of Jewish Women of NSW in Australia. They provide exactly the support you talk about. Mums can get the details through their midwife.
And there is no need for either volunteers or new mums to be Jewish.
That’s FANTASTIC! Thank you for sharing that. I think it’s brilliant that someone does that – to me, it’s the best way for us moms to help each other out. And it is possible without a charity too if moms just help those around them!
No need to be so prejudice :-/ she was letting others know about an association that helps other moms, regardless of their faith or culture – which is wonderful, thank you for sharing 🙂
That was the same person replying to her comment to let others know even if it was Jewish you don’t have to be Jewish.
Hi. Just want to tell you that what a great idea you have there!
We live in Asia. This is how we do it. We have a new mom & old mom team. Most of us anyway. The old mom is our own mom or mother in law. And I must tell you, it works! Now, not everybody have families and friends nearby & available. But we should. This program make perfect sense.
Everything I learn about the way many Asian cultures approach childrearing makes SO MUCH SENSE. And again, it seems to come from the collectivist culture and respect for a mother’s work in the house. I know there are flaws in every culture, but this is an area I’m obscenely jealous of!!!
I don’t know about respecting mother’s work in the house..haha.. Like almost every culture, sahm are undervalued, I think.
But on child rearing, we (our family anyway) always put ourselves in the baby’s shoe.
How would you feel to cry loudly or ask for help and being ignored? Remember, baby can’t talk.
would you prefer sleeping alone or sleeping near somebody you love most?
If you were in a new town for the first few months, would you prefer being with somebody you trust and know more about the town to guide you? Or wandering aimlessly alone without human interaction?
Well, Baby’s new to the world. Whatever culture we are from, I think the answers are obvious.
I really hope you’ll make this mother teams thing work, Tracy!
I love your analogies Irena!! Please people, do like this mom says and put yourselves in your babies place. Don’t just think, FEEL
Good article, and I didn’t see any foot-in-mouth syndrome 😉
One of those ‘cultural’ things that is so different in and out of the church. I’ve never been to a church that didn’t have at least meal volunteers for new moms. Having the church family bring over dinner for the first week or so post-partum (if you want) is just a normal fact of life. Usually offers to grocery shop or bring over needed supplies is automatically included. And if you need more help all you have to do is put a note up. From teenagers to other moms, someone’s always willing to help if you ask.
Asking is a big part of the problem, as I see it. So many women (outside the church and especially those who had “careers” before) believe they have to be able to do it all or they’re weak somehow. And it’s just not true! It’s actually the challenge for Feb I’ll put up on FB – ask for help 🙂 Simple, but I doubt many people do it!
Again, culture though. I wasn’t in a church from infancy, but certainly from mid childhood on (the last 20 years) and it’s expected that new moms will (and should) need and be given that help. By ‘ask’ I really just mean ‘inform’, because the mindset isn’t ‘please sir may I have some more’, rather it’s ‘ok, my baby was 8lbs, 19 in, born last night’. Then someone from the church calls the new parents and asks when it’s convient to drop off dinners.
I was really excited to see the Middlemiss study, because I keep reading these hypotheses that CIO causes a flood of cortisol, and I have yet to see a study that actually shows that happens. (I’m not saying it doesn’t – I would predict that cortisol would increase, at least on the first night of CIO, but we have no idea how much it would increase or how long that increase would last, because this has not been studied.) Unfortunately, I don’t think the Middlemiss study tells us much. The cortisol levels in the infants were actually the same before bedtime (when they were going through their bedtime routines with their mothers) and at the time when they fell asleep (after crying), and they did not change between days 1 and 3. These cortisol levels were also sky-high for the entire 3 days. The problem, I think, is that these babies were just all-around stressed. A residential sleep-training program? That sounds like the worst-possible way to help your baby learn to sleep – if you’ve ever traveled with a baby, you know this is true! They were sleeping in strange beds with a strange nurse checking in on them, and during the day, they were in a strange setting. This study doesn’t show a spike of cortisol after CIO in these babies. They appeared to already be so stressed that any increase in cortisol associated with CIO was buried under their general stress. I even emailed Wendy Middlemiss to clarify these data, and she confirmed this and agreed that the babies were probably very stressed during the whole study. What the study does show is that on the third day, when the babies went to sleep with very little fuss, the mothers finally started to relax. I don’t think that’s a bad thing. The authors emphasize the finding of asynchrony (I suspect because it was really the only significant finding), which is interesting, but I don’t think it is detrimental. For all we know, these moms and babies could have been back in sync by day 4. I don’t know why the authors don’t report cortisol for days 4 and 5, since they state it was a 5-day program. We are back where we started: we still don’t know what happens to cortisol in babies that CIO at home, in their own beds, with a familiar caregiver checking in on them.
I’d like to add that I think that having a mom with PPD or even severe sleep deprivation without depression could cause very serious stress to a baby. Not having a caregiver that is in tuned to her and responsive – asynchrony – day in and day out, may be more harmful to a baby than crying for a few nights before sleep. Who are we to say that it is all the same, if we don’t have data to support this?
Alice – a very great point about the all-around stress, but importantly, they shouldn’t be too stressed if spending the day close to mom. (Though to be fair, I don’t know exactly what the daytime activities are.) Notably, measuring anything pre-bedtime but during a bedtime routine should actually activate any stress response earlier if the routine is known. Thus without measures during mid-day, it’s also not conclusively “all-around stress”. Regardless, what remains is that the experience of sleep training remains stressful. Like you, though, I would love to see data from later time periods (day 5, but even better would be a month later)!
I will add I agree that serious PPD or severe sleep deprivation is not the way to go for a baby or mom. That’s why I focused on the end about finding ways around both of the problems (PPD and CIO) – if we help each other out, do we need to stress about either or can we avoid both?
The babies’ saliva was sampled at the initiation of the sleep routine, which would have reflected physiological stress 20 minutes prior, because there is a lag between cortisol release and appearance in saliva. While we can’t assume that the babies were stressed all day long, we know that their cortisol was high in the evening (when they were with their moms after spending the day together) and not further increased by crying-it-out. This study does not give us evidence that CIO activates the HPA axis, and as far as I can tell, there is not yet any evidence for this. Reporting it as such just makes it look like you are interpreting data selectively to support your hypothesis. If I wanted to support the opposite hypothesis, I could say that this study shows that CIO didn’t stress these babies, since there wasn’t an increase in cortisol associated with it. I don’t think that would be honest either, because the circumstances and quality of the study mean that it simply doesn’t tell us anything about how babies would respond to CIO in their own homes.
My comment about the serious effects of PPD on a baby was in reference to your use of studies looking at the adverse outcomes of PPD and saying that CIO would cause similar effects. This is quite a leap, since we have no evidence that CIO activates the HPA axis, and certainly not that it would activate the HPA axis chronically as we would expect with PPD.
As you can guess, I’m quite interested in this topic:) I’m interested as a mother who used CIO with a baby that struggled to get to sleep and stay asleep. It worked wonders – she got more rest and was more engaged during her waking hours. As a bonus, I got more rest, and if anything, I felt that it improved our attachment relationship. I don’t buy the argument that babies that CIO learn that their cries will not be responded to. I used CIO to give my baby a chance to learn to fall asleep on her own, which she learned to do within several nights. I didn’t use it to neglect her. She still woke during the night and cried, and I responded to her by nursing her, but she would transition to sleep quickly after her feeding (whereas before CIO she would require 30 minutes of soothing and then sneaking into her bed). So in my mind, if CIO has risks (as most everything does), it also has benefits, and those cannot be ignored. You may think it is healthier for a baby to wake frequently and require a mother’s soothing to get back to sleep, but I disagree.
My interest in this topic is also related to the amount of judgement among mothers that I see online and in communities. I’m all for trying to be the best parents we can be, and I’m all for continuing to learn with an open mind and heart. I’m definitely all for supporting each other more. However, what you have here is a theory that CIO is harmful, but I don’t think the evidence is actually all that strong. Meanwhile, after seeing articles like this online, I’ve already had to talk several mom friends down as they’re freaking out about whether or not they damaged their child’s brain by letting her CIO. If you were writing about why you shouldn’t hit your child, I would cheer you one, because there is solid evidence for that. I take very seriously the responsibility of presenting science honestly so that parents can have accurate information to make the best choices for their family.
I felt your question was important enough I created a post on my thought process and why I came to the conclusions I did. However, I do disagree that CIO has “benefits” outside of those I stated for moms suffering PPD. I also realize though that when infants are in their own bed, away from parents, sleep problems can become even greater than if they start out co-sleeping or bedsharing which is why I believe in infants being as close to their parents as possible during the first year of life (or beyond).
Do we really need “scientific evidence’? Put yourself in the babies shoes. Nuff said.
For example, what if you called your best friend or your own mom tonight because you were really, really going through something very difficult and you were sobbing with the hurt, and she told you not to bother her, she was tired, and never, ever call her again after 6pm, even if you are terribly upset? And she heard you sobbing but just hung up the phone?
How would you feel? Betrayed? Alone? Hopeless? Deeply sad? Yup.
That’s what babies feel EVERY NIGHT if their parents use the CIO methods.
How can they NOT be damaged from that?
Those horrible emotions are what they live with every scary night!
It’s just common sense. Babies are not being bratty by crying, they are being babies. They NEED YOU. You are their life line. You are not spoiling them by answering their call, you are being a responsible parent.
They cannot tell you what is wrong. Crying is their only means of communication. So if they are communicating distress do we need a study to tell us that it is our job to help them? That they suffer if we don’t? I think not.
Parenting is messy and you will lose lots of sleep when your child is small. It is in the job description.
excellent point at the end -do we really know the difference?
I find reading articles like this where the author is so biased a complete waste of my time.
I can only imagine the extra waste of time to write then!
hmm what I liked about this is that is was not biased. Did you read the whole article to the end? I think one point that can be confusing is the terminology.
personally i found this slightly unbalanced. I don’t know if what i did with my son was sleep training or not, but i did allow him (for 3 days as a 1 month old) to cry for up to 10 minutes when I put him down for a sleep. He cried for 10 minutes once. Now if he wants to go to sleep he just does, no help required from me. More than a year on he still sleeps through the night and his daytime sleep, he’s so happy to get into bed.
I’ve always felt that decent sleep is hugely important for his development. that dosn’t mean that if he cries in the middle of the night i don’t cuddle him – of course i do.
When i decided to do this with my 1 mnth old i’g just gained some perspective on baby crying. He would cry when he needed to do a burp or if i undid his nappy (remember those days?!) but when i accidentally nail clipped his finger drawing blood – not even a peep.
Being awake forever and perservering with constant waking and crying is not a badge of honour, don’t kid yourself that it is.
I will say this – even Dr. Ferber, who started extinction with Ferberization was very clear that it should never be done with a child under 6 months of age because of their developing circadian rhythms. It’s great you’re getting up to cuddle though. But being awake and perservering with constant waking is part of parenthood, especially if one doesn’t co-sleep. (Co-sleeping tends to eliminate the need for being fully awake for many parents as your infant’s needs can be met right away.) Sleep is important, no doubt, but infants wake – they aren’t biologically set to sleep through the night for months (and in same cases, over a year). It’s our expectations that they’ll sleep through the night that are not in line with biology. So I guess if you had hoped for something in here about the positives of CIO techniques, I just can’t do that because they are quite opposed to what infants are biologically designed to expect. But I did mention, and still believe, that at times (because our society is so fragmented and lacking real community) that a mom will have to put her baby down and leave him or her to cry to save her sanity. And she should do that when it’s necessary!
in calgary, AB we have a non profit group called Made By Momma that is 100% volunteer run – volunteers bring meals to moms that are struggling with the birth of mulitiples, post partum, bed rest, single
Parent etc. it really is “old” moms paired with new ones. They hold the babies while mom naps or plays with the toddler while mom feeds the twins! Amazing program!!
Love it! A few others have mentioned this and I think I’d like to start getting a section going on the various programs available! So thank you 🙂
First, “crying it out” is not qualified. Is it letting a child cry for hours, or is it the Ferber method of progressive waiting? There is a world of difference between the two, and to not clarify this difference invites conflation between them. Two people I know who read this article immediately thought it was addressing the first.
Second, so many of the studies mentioned were disqualified because they did not specifically address parental attachment and/or used self-reporting… However, study [7], for instance, uses self-reporting when discussing the states of the 13 and 16 year olds involved. How can its results then be used to support your argument?
Third, even though [2] was dismissed, its important to note from the abstract that “For nighttime wakings, mothers in the graduated ignoring group reported higher rates of compliance and less treatment-related stress.” As your article notes, “We need to find ways to be there for new moms so that mothers don’t have to make this awful choice. [regarding mother’s mental health vs baby’s development]”. Just to be clear – you aren’t denying that progressive waiting is less stressful on the parent, correct?
Fourth, the comparison you invite between mothers who use CIO infrequently and mothers who use CIO to train their children is a false dilemma – either a mother is mentally ill and only hurts her child a little, or the mother is through training hurting her child over and over again, allowing for nothing in-between. You even say that the mother who trains is often “less responsive” than the mother who uses it infrequently… Seriously? I go back and reference study [7] and find that it is the mother who suffers from post-partum depression (whom you put in the first category) who potentially has the greatest negative effect upon a child!
Fifth, I go back to the article and find the following line – “The stress response is high and immediate to all stressors at birth (even minor ones)”. So I ask this – how many times is a child required to “cry it out”? A night? Three? A week? Two? A month? Let’s say that the child requires the technique 25 times over the course of a few weeks. Are these 25 hypothetical times more stressful than the hundreds of times that a child is hungry, or is wet, or wants affection, and isn’t fed/changed/reassured immediately?
I got lucky – my child only required three or four limited crying sessions to get the message. Are those three or four times more harmful to her than if her mother had a pattern of neglecting her? How many CIO events does it take before the effects can be considered on par with a mother who does neglect her child?
Saul, first I would say that I don’t think, from a child’s point of view, that there’s a huge difference between the two methods. Not being responded to is not being responded to and assuming that only physical needs are what elicits a response isn’t something I think we want to advocate for in society.
Second, the Halligan et al. study is quite different. Why? Because I trust adolescent self-report data about *their* depressive symptoms. However, a mother reporting on her child’s attachment speaks to her involvement in the dyad, but not the infant’s. It’s why things like the strange situation were developed. Just as I trust the implications from the earlier-cited studies on parental stress because a parent can report on their own stress levels. Hopefully that helps to clarify.
The idea of the false dilemma regarding CIO for a moment’s rest and training is interesting. There are obviously degrees of difference, but in a short span, I went for the dichotomized view. The research on PPD is women who are neglecting their children, not the women who may suffer but are not neglectful. There is a huge distinction there as well (that probably speaks to the degree of PPD). Many women suffer PPD without receiving treatment either because they don’t qualify or it hasn’t impacted their functioning as much as those who end up in treatment and end up researched. I personally know many mothers who had bouts of PPD but were unbelievably responsive and did use CIO in the manner described – briefly and for a moment’s peace. While I don’t discount the effects of PPD (it’s why I proposed the program I did at the end), there’s a sliding scale there and yes, I should have been more clear that I was *not* including those who suffer intense PPD.
As to the issue of crying for other reasons – it’s the same. It’s why there’s a wealth of research on responsiveness to distress being one of the best predictors of positive attachment and child well-being. The main difference, as I see it, is that most people respond to the cries of the diaper, etc. promptly or hold them or try to alleviate the distress. Remember that holding a child dampens the cortisol response to distress and can even eliminate it entirely. When you leave your child to cry at night, there is no response to their distress.
Finally, I find it interesting you stated that your daughter “got the message” – what message was it exactly that you were trying to send? And yes, I think the question of neglect vs. CIO is a difficult one – one I hoped I addressed by saying I do believe CIO is the lesser of two evils, but they’re both evils. And that’s why we need to work as a community so that mothers don’t HAVE to make that choice. That they are supported and helped when necessary.
Wow, way to go and make mums feels guilty. No matter what approach we try, there is always an expert to tell us it is the wrong way. Number 1 DD was an “easy child” slept well, I had her in the bassinet beside my bed, lots of bonding, no external child minding, all bliss. We thought we had this parent gig down pat. Number 2, DS comes along, our approach was the same, yet he had “colic” and cried long and often, FOR the best part of seven months. Yes, I saw the professionals, and yes he grew out of it and is now the most wonderful kind caring clever 10 year old boy. But if I take to heart your expert advice, I have permanently damaged my son by “allowing” him to cry because as you say, a baby doesn’t see a difference, stress is stress. Way to go on increasing my guilt.
These studies are not yet conclusive, the nature of studies on humans is just that way, that is why there is a whole epidemiology department, it is very difficult to coordinate a tight controlled situation which reduces potential variables and thus give an accurate result. For every potential variable, their needs to be an increase in subject numbers to show any statistical difference, hence the well touted Framingham study with its 1000’s of participants. My point here, is that to date the studies have been underwhelming, yes both for and against, so why go and shout from the top of the mountain more absolute “advice” that contributes to a mothers guilt. Do we extrapolate and say we know stress increases with crying and separation so all mothers who use child care need to rethink? What about parents of chronically ill baby’s and toddlers? Are they doomed from the start?
Our children need to know they are loved and cared for, and who better then mum or dad to do that. You try and do the best you can with what you have. There is no perfect one size fits all approach to parenting and you have joined the ranks of guilt loaders whether that was your intention or not. Your very good message of attend to your child is lost in the accusatory approach that does little more than reinforce the guilt mothers already have about the way they raise their babies.
Pease consider how you write. To an over stressed tired mom trying to do the best she can, seeking the advice of experts, this may be the final straw……………….
Thankyou for showing us that it doesn’t need to be like this!!! Mums are blamed for everything in our culture, when there are already such unreasonable expectations placed upon them.
Parents: Try the Family Bed! No crying and everyone gets sleep. Humans have been doing this since we looked like sloths and it works! Bonding is excellent and everyone is respected as people. Roll over and breastfeed. Easy. Everyone goes back to sleep in a beautiful, sleepy, loving haze. (Less incidents of SIDS too!)
Parents, you have been misled! Please wake up! CIO as a training method is clearly a case of NOT RESPECTING YOUR CHILD and SHIRKING YOUR DUTY AS A PARENT. (Sorry but it is true.) The babies are obviously in distress and calling YOU, their only life line, for help. It is YOUR JOB to help them. Ignoring them to “train” them is inhumane. You train a dog. You raise a child.
Would you like it if you called your best friend during a dark night of the soul and she wouldn’t talk to you but told you to just cry it out and not to call her again, ever, when you were in distress? Or what if you called your mom now? (If she is alive) And what if she told you to stop bothering her, but just cry it out. How would you feel? Horrible, right? That is what your baby feels! Every night.
My son said it best when he was around 6, “The babies are crying because they need their moms. When the moms don’t come the baby learns no one cares about them and no one will ever help them when they really need it.”
He was right. Babies don’t know the rationale behind “methods”. they only know, and learn about the world and how to act in it, through their emotions. All they know is when they really, really need someone they do not come.
What a lonely and desperate existence! Why do you want to hurt your child this way for your own convenience?
Attachment? Compassion? Forget it! How many times would you call that friend back, or even your own mom, when you were hurting? And how can you learn compassion when you have not experienced it? Very difficult.
We are raising potential sociopaths. Our Congresspeople, and Wall Street moguls, for example were raised with CIO. They are Dr. Spock babies. And Spock made CIO popular. HE SINCE RENOUNCED THE PRACTICE and apologized, by the way….but our Congress and Wall Street execs are still CIO babies. ….and it shows. They do not care about real people. They have no compassion and are not attached to humans, but to money and power. And the world suffers….
When you consider having children, please think realistically. Children are messy and you will lose sleep. If you can’t deal with that DO NOT HAVE KIDS! That is part of your responsibility as a parent. If you cannot do it, USE BIRTH CONTROL. Parenting is about being unselfish. The sooner people learn that, the sooner our world will be a better place for all and these poor kids will not keep suffering needlessly. Peace.
Seriously – you aren’t scarring your child for life, you are not emotionally retarding them, you are not “damaging” them by letting them cry a little. There is nothing wrong with practicing CIO responsibly.
Of course we train children. How would you explain the process by which a child learns their manners? We don’t train them like we train dogs, but we do train them.
Once again, there is a difference between letting your child cry for hours and waiting a little longer each time before you respond. Claiming that ten or twenty minutes of crying “damages” a child is ludicrous, as is claiming that progressive waiting techniques is irresponsible on the part of the parent.
We are “raising potential sociopaths”… seriously? You can’t be serious. “Our Congress and Wall Street execs are still CIO babies. ….and it shows”? To claim that a few incidents that may or may not have happened when they were less than a year old has caused them to be tyrannical, power-hungry misanthropes is ridiculous.
I fear that your well-intentioned sentiments are discredited, being found amidst such unfounded hyperbole.
Hi, you said ” They are Dr. Spock babies. And Spock made CIO popular. HE SINCE RENOUNCED THE PRACTICE and apologized, by the way…” I find that really interesting because my Mom raised me by the Dr. Spock book and her interpretation of his advice was to let me cry a bit and see if I self soothe and go back to sleep. She did not see it as letting a baby cry and scream till it is exhausted.
I still only hear bad references to Dr. Spock but my Mom’s interpretation was really humane. She is Sicilian so maybe she just took the advice as a basic guideline as all us should do as books are not the true authority on doing something right.
She often said he was progressive and I think but am not sure of you look at what came before him he was a huge improvement? Wasn’t the Victorian method in place before him, “don’t speak until your spoken too?, use the rod, etc. whatever that saying was. Use children for perversions cause they don’t count, use them to do child labor 16 hours a day”. It really is best to put some things in context. He may have some bad compared to what came after but he was incredible contrasted with what came before.
Thank you for your article. It is so nice to hear the other side with research that backs up what is best for the babies. We attempted CIO with our first baby and it went against everything inside me. After a few days we stopped and never looked back. Three kids later it was the best decision ever. I often receive comments from teachers and other people about how self confident our children (5,3 and 18months) are. I attribute a lot of that to the fact that we lay down to sleep with them at night and again any time they wake in the night. In our experience that feeling of security and closeness they fall to sleep with carries through all day, even when we are not together. To make this work we have always had our kids in normal comfortable beds rather than cribs. It allows me to just jump in bed with them and everyone still gets a good night sleep and they get the reassurance they need too.
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I like how your article did not just brush off the PPD reason for CIO. As a mom who had PPD and who rarely did CIO only when I was literally crawling out of my skin with anger, I support your articles end and goals. I sooo wish some community matching could be done. I know some are against socialized medicine but in many European countries the realm of Mom’s checking on other Mom’s is handled by their health care system. Until the US can get it’s healthcare system to that developed point a volunteer system would be great. I regularly go on Mom’s sites tell my own story and offer my help to others. For Mom’s who may be going thru PPD or PP anxiety-ask for help. Ask everyone and you will find support and help.
I truly believe we need to get back to community and helping one another. It should not be a government worker (though that’s better than nothing if it works), but real support that can be there for moms not only at the absolute worst times, but who can help at all times so it doesn’t get to be that bad! One day perhaps it will be started…
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Thank you for this article! If a mom breastfeeds and sleeps with the baby in her bed (I know, that’s a whole ‘nother can of worms) tending to the baby throughout the night is a thousand times easier. My daughter had a difficult delivery and spent a week in NICU. By the time I got her back, she was clingy and stayed a difficult sleeper for YEARS. I stuck it out with holding her and sitting with her when she needed it, night or day, and now, at 12, she is one of the most independent kids in her peer group. In fact, at her own request, last week she flew across the country by herself to spend two weeks with my sister-in-law, who she likes but doesn’t know well. There are huge rewards to being present for your baby, but sometimes they don’t show up until much later.
This is a good explanation (if a little difficult to follow for people who are out of practice at reading academic style writing). I really like it that you brought up the tricky subject of what is worse – the effects of a mom with PPD on the baby, or the effects of CIO.
From my own experience, all three of my children slept well for the first 4 months and after that, woke hourly to nurse until they were almost 2. I ended up with sleep-deprivation induced PPD later in their infancies (closer to 11 months) likely all three times, though I only sought professional help the first time around. After that, I didn’t have the community support to find childcare so I could attend weekly counseling sessions and I’d been through it all before (parenting in general, but also PPD) and felt somewhat better equipped so we muddled through. I am not sure it was the right decision, but again that just highlights the lack of community support that you are talking about, even for experienced moms. And because I’ve gone through this 3 times back to back with little time to replenish sleep banks between nightweaning one child and being pregnant again, to be honest, as much as I would like to be able to offer my help and experience to newer moms, I’m still recovering myself and have little extra energy to share around at this point. I hope I will still know some new moms when I am in a better position to offer support, because I absolutely agree with you on that.
I want to speak directly to that idea of using CIO as a last ditch effort out of desperation to save yourself and your child from the debilitating and scary effects of PPD. I have occasionally reached that point (even with a very involved partner who has done his fair share of nightparenting too – as far as he was able to, without breasts) and it didn’t work. I have always been philosophically opposed to CIO and when I resorted to it out of desperation, I couldn’t go through with it because over and above being heartbreaking, I was also not committed to it. I think part of what makes it “work” (I know from the research of course that it doesn’t) is the fact that if committed to it, you don’t “give in” and get the child. But in my case, if I went to the child after 20 min of crying, the child knew that they had to cry for 20 min at least (not that they are timing, but they know on some level that I will come eventually so they keep reaching out for me) whereas another child who has come to understand that the parent will never come will gradually extinguish their crying, crying for shorter and shorter periods until they stop altogether. Because my kids knew I would come eventually (thank god they knew that!!!), they would cry longer and longer until I came so it just didn’t work. When I say I tried it, I mean a handful of occasions (like 1 nap out of desperation) not that I tried it for a week at a time (again a reason it didn’t “work”). It was horrible, and even when I really was at the point where the damage of CIO would have been less than the damage of a PPD mom, it still didn’t work.
For me, because of that, and because my kids were attached to ME (more than their dads or anyone else) and to breastfeeding, it meant I really felt that there was nothing I could do, there was no one who could help me. No one could take the baby for 5 hours and let me have some unbroken sleep because at that point another 1 hour nap wasn’t cutting it (I already got 8 1 hour naps every night). I don’t know what the answer is. I wish there was a clear solution. For now, all I know is that I’m not having more kids, my youngest is two, we got through it and thankfully, it’s behind me now. 🙂
[…] There have actually been precious few studies done on sleep training and for me, that's where a large part of the problem lies. However, the research that is there doesn't support extinction sleep training as a safe or effective method. It's been shown to reduce stress signaling and has been shown to be statistically ineffective by 6mo after training has taken place. There is a scientific consensus on the harm of high levels of stress on developing brains. Sleep training causes infants to stop signalling their stress, even though they still feel it, which disrupts the ability of the adult caregiver to sooth such stress. While I'm not going to argue that cio will cause a baby to become a serial killer or a moron, it's generally understood that any straying from the conditions in which our bodies evolved to perform best under will result in disimproved outcomes. And cio/cc/ferberizing/etc is a huge leap from what humans evolved to expect from caregivers. https://gku.flm.mybluehost.me/evolutionaryparenting.com/wha…crying-it-out/ […]
Studies aside leaving a baby to cry fights against all my instincts. I found a lot of opposing views to my going to my lo whenever they cried- and not always supported. A lot has to do with our modern societies displaced values on motherhood. We are taught a ‘trained’ baby is a good baby and a good baby = a good parent. Society needs to value and support mothers to help them be giving loving parents, because it is hard, and stop seeing children as an inconvenience we need to work into our own lives.
I have four children and was only 20 years old when my 1st child was born. Thank God my instincts told me that if they cried they needed me. If their diaper was dry, they had been nursed and burped & still they cried, my immediate thought was they still needed me, they needed to feel the comfort of connection with me, they needed to feel their tiny body next to mine as it had felt for them in my womb and in my arms was exactly where I wanted them to be. Our womb is where they feel safe and connected to us and then after they are born some parents think it makes sense to leave them alone in a crib and let them CIO
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[…] I hope you have learned here that a) crying is simply a form of communication and the primary one that an infant has, and b) that not all forms of not crying are equal. Infants need to learn that they have control over their environments and can effect change in their lives; they also need to know they are loved and cared for. They do not manipulate their parents – in fact, they are incapable of doing so, and the work of Mary Ainsworth has gone a long way to demonstrate that far from being manipulative, crying leads to communication between caregiver and infant and that this communication leads to a natural reduction in crying as time goes by[1][2]. And most important for you to realize is that simply because a child has stopped crying – as I acknowledge that your trainings will get a child to stop crying – that is not always a good thing. In fact, the only type of crying cessation that is good is that which results from a child’s needs being met. The rest is simply setting up the child for either a risk of illness or death (hyperthermia) or psychological damage (learned helplessness). (Note that there is also neurological damage but we’ll get to that in another lesson on crying-it-out techniques. You can read about crying-it-out here, including discussions of post-partum depression and sleep.) […]
[…] אני מקווה שלמדתן א) שבכי הוא פשוט צורת תקשורת והיא העיקרית שיש לתינוק ו-ב) שלא כל צורות חוסר הבכי הן שוות. תינוקות צריכים ללמוד שיש להם שליטה על הסביבה שלהם ושהם יכולים להשפיע על החיים שלהם. הם גם צריכים לדעת שמטפלים בהם ואוהבים אותם. הם לא עושים מניפולציות להורים שלהם – למעשה, אין להם א היכולת לעשות זאת, והעבודה של מארי איינסוורת' עשתה מאמץ כדי להדגים שהרחק מהיותו מניפולטיבי, בכי מוביל לתקשורת בין מטפל לתינוק ושהתקשורת הזאת מביאה להפחתה בבכי לאורך זמן[1][2]. והכי חושב שתבינו הוא שזה שילד פשוט הפסיק לבכות – ואני מקבלת את זה שהאימונים שלכן יגרמו לילד להספיק לבכות – זה לא תמיד דבר טוב. למעשה, הסוג הטוב היחיד של הפסקת בכי הוא זה שנובע מכך שסופק הצורך של הילד. היתר פשוט מכינים את הילד או לסיכון למחלה או מוות (היפרתרמיה) או לנזק פסיכולוגי (חוסר אונים נרכש). (שימו לב שיש גם נזק ניורולוגי אבל אנחנו נדבר על זה בשיעור אחר על טכניקות שנותנות לילד לבכות עד שהוא נרגע.) […]
[…] Als je me nog steeds niet gelooft: we weten ook dat het laten huilen (CIO) resulteert in de toename van cortisol dat voor tenminste de korte termijn aanwezig blijft nadat het huilen in de nacht is opgehouden 6, dat geeft ons een lichamelijke meting voor deze nood. Ik zeg “tenminste de korte termijn” omdat de effecten voor de langere termijn nog niet zijn onderzocht. Natuurlijk verwachten we dat het niveau omlaag gaat zodra het kind went aan het alleen zijn ‘s nachts, maar hoe lang het duurt per kind is onbekend, maar het kan veel zeggen over de kansen voor negatieve effecten op de langere termijn. (Als je de hype gelooft dat er veel studies zijn die geen negatieve effecten op de langere termijn aangeven voor het laten huilen (CIO), lees dan dit alsjeblieft). […]
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[…] «Laisse-le donc pleurer!» J’ai eu mon premier enfant à une époque où ce conseil était souvent donné. Malheureusement, on l’entend encore. Le fameux 5-10-15…Cette méthode de résolution d’un problème relatif au sommeil (celui des parents, parce que pour le bébé, ce n’est pas un problème en soi) est issue des théories behavioristes : l’enfant adopte les comportements «payants», ceux qui lui bénéficient à court terme, et abandonne les autres. Le behaviorisme n’est pas faux comme théorie de l’apprentissage ni mauvais comme méthode d’éducation, mais il est très incomplet et insuffisant. Il néglige un aspect très important : en général-je l’espère bien- lorsqu’on prend soin d’un autre être vivant, on ne souhaite pas simplement qu’il agisse selon nos quatre volontés. On veut aussi qu’il devienne progressivement un individu plus autonome et capable de tolérer nos absences tout en ayant confiance que nous serons là pour lui au besoin, ce qui contribuera grandement à son bien-être. C’est ce qu’on appelle avoir une relation d’attachement sécuritaire. Pour le reste de ce texte, vous remarquerez probablement que je passe allègrement des chiots aux bébés humains et vice-versa. Je me le permets pour une raison bien simple : tous les bébés mammifères ont à peu près les mêmes besoins! On peut assez facilement et logiquement faire des parallèles scientifiquement valides. Certaines personnes ont eu des chiens avant d’avoir des enfants. J’ai fait l’inverse. Quand j’ai eu mon premier chien, j’avais déjà développé ma sensibilité aux besoins de d’autres petits mammifères : les quatre petits humains que j’ai mis au monde et allaités. Pour prendre soin de ceux-ci, j’ai reçu des conseils contradictoires, mais je n’ai pas hésité à écouter ce que mes émotions et mes intuitions de mère m’indiquaient : mes bébés avaient besoin d’être touchés, tenus dans les bras et sécurisés. Quand je suis allée chercher mon chiot chez un éleveur, j’ai bien vu le contraste entre les conditions dans lesquelles il y vivait et celles que j’allais lui offrir. Habitué de dormir entassé sur ses huit frères et sœurs, il allait se retrouver dans une maison sans aucune présence canine. Je n’allais pas, en plus, le priver de toute présence humaine pendant une nuit entière dès le premier soir! Il était simplement hors de question que je fasse abstraction de ses besoins. Ne pas répondre à ses appels lui aurait fait apprendre qu’il ne servait à rien d’essayer de communiquer avec moi. Si telle avait été la leçon que je voulais lui inculquer, il eut mieux valu que je n’aie pas de chien! Depuis, à toutes les personnes qui m’ont demandé des conseils sur l’éducation de leur chiot (et les ont suivis, ça c’est une autre histoire…), j’ai recommandé d’accorder un temps d’adaptation à leur petit chien. Ils ont tous appris à être seuls la nuit en environ une semaine. Sans pleurs et sans traumatismes. La vitesse de maturation du petit d’humain étant beaucoup plus lente, les parents doivent faire preuve de plus de patience. Il se trouve que la recherche confirme l’évidence : les chiens qui ont des maîtres évitants (ils répondent peu aux demandes d’interaction de leur chien, ne favorisent pas la communication à deux sens et manifestent peu d’affection) développent plus d’anxiété de séparation. De plus, ignorer les appels du chiot en détresse peut lui causer des traumatismes. Contrairement aux idées reçues, un attachement sain avec son parent ou maître ne mène pas à plus d’anxiété de séparation, mais à moins! Je comprends la fatigue des parents ou maîtres et leur recherche de résultats rapides. Je les comprends très bien; j’ai déjà été à leur place. Je dois toutefois être réaliste: en matière de relations, les raccourcis, s’ils existent, ne sont pas sans conséquences. Je ne suis certainement pas en train de vous dire qu’il faut absolument dormir près de son chiot pendant tant de jours ou de semaines ou qu’on doive prendre un congé parental d’une durée X et se lever la nuit jusqu’à un certain nombre de mois. Non, je vous dis simplement que les petits mammifères naissent avec un besoin de contacts physiques et de présence et que la vitesse à laquelle ils arriveront à s’en passer est variable. Si on choisit de les accueillir dans nos vies, on doit faire preuve d’une certaine souplesse, tout en faisant de notre mieux pour progessivement les mener vers plus d’autonomie. Quelques liens: Sur les séquelles de laisser pleurer chez le chiot et chez l’enfant. […]
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Do you have any links to more recent studies? The most recent is 2007, and most are much older. I sleep trained my daughter at 10 months because she was waking up very often, we co-slept, and I could see her become sleep deprived. She did cry the first week of sleep training, but she now sleeps 12 to 13 hours a night, and she seems to learn more quickly and have more energy.
However, I have tried sleep training for naps, and she still cries after over a month of attempting to help her learn how to nap. I don’t want her sleep deprived, but I see recent studies that sleep deprivation can be very bad for children.
I would love to look at both sides of the subject with updated research but can’t seem to find it. Thanks for your help! Also I agree, it would be great if our society included mothers or mother in laws being more helpful. Unfortunately, some of us have no help and husbands that work long hours. I still breast fed on demand and co-slept and interacted in a positive and fun way with my daughter, but it would be nice to have more sleep as a new mother!
There aren’t tons of studies period. Anything new has been written up in other articles on the site. However, some of the bigger concerns are with things like cortisol and vagal nerve responses and these are more circumstantial evidence.
You can read more on the cortisol link here:https://gku.flm.mybluehost.me/evolutionaryparenting.com/its-just-a-little-cortisol-why-rises-in-cortisol-matter-to-infant-development/
Hi Tracy, thank you for your article. I was distressed to read your mention of daycare as a stressor that could potentially damage a baby’s emotional and behavioural development. I have a 7 month old and try to be as responsive as possible (day and night), and my baby seems very sociable and happy. As much as I would love to stay home with her, I’m in the position where I need to start her in daycare 1 day a week soon, increasing to 2-3 days when she’s 11 months old (this is a financial necessity). I have found a daycare centre where the carers seemed very warm and engaged. I have been consoling myself with the thought that because my daughter is so sociable she will enjoy it, but I’m horrified to think that it could damage her and change who she is supposed to be (particularly the potential effect on empathy). I was wondering if you could elaborate on the positive/negative effects of daycare and the strength of any research studies supporting these, and offer some guidance on how best to manage this situation to be as positive as possible for her development and experience. Thank you, Charlotte
Hi Charlotte,
I have covered the research on daycare and cortisol in another piece which yoy can lookup (on my phone so I can’t link), but it’s quite robust. The primary mediating effect is the quality of daycare. That is, children in high-end daycares do show temporary increases but their behaviour in the long-term is a-okay. This is likely due to high quality daycares offering emotional responsiveness and support.
Does that help?
Tracy
I have thought long and hard about the effects of cio in the long run and wish that there can be more conculsive evidence, I can however share the following, this is only to encourage more thinking before doing and not based on facts, but it makes sense to me and has largely been the reason I do not sleep train. I have a 15mth old that only sleeps 1hour at a time…
I’m the youngest of three, I was breastfed up to 18mnths and always slept well as a baby, 7-7 no crying and lots of mommy loves. My siblings however where not so lucky. My mom was naturally gentle, my dad not so much. She wanted to breatsfeed them but couldn’t manage it. They cried for love and cuddles at night, which she wanted to give, but my father wouldn’t allow. He would lock her in a room while my brothers where left to cio, so sad!! Today both of my siblings have serious mental issues (i would like to add that my father wasn’t abusive towards us, just very strict, they divorced when we were really young and father wasn’t part of lives after that), oldest one is almost 40 and can’t stay in one place longer than a year. Doesn’t get along with anyone and changes jobs like we change clothes. He trusts no-one and has a hard time excepting help or giving it for that matter. He has a diagnosis of bipolar with BPD pn top of that. Middle sibling has been in and out o mental hospitals for the last 18years, can’t function on his own, 37years old, still lives with my mother.
I, on the other hand, turned out quite alright. I’ve been with my husband since grade 6 and we have a beautiful child that we raise with a gentle approach. Ironically today a suffer from sleep issues, but apart from that I am mentally sound and generally well adjusted.
Again, this is only my theory, but can’t help to wonder if those first encounters with severe stress and seperation from my mother did not contribute to their issues. I’m not naive and realize that lots of things play a role, but it makes you think…
I think I’ll continue to respond to my babes everytime with love and care, even if it drives me up the wall, just on case…
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Tracy, just my sincere congratulations on this article, I’m just diving into your work, thanks so much! I’m starting a project for stressed new families in North Spain right now, I would love to chat with you some time, your work is already being invaluable to me.
Best wishes,
Tamara
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As I saw this linked to in a newer article I was looking at, I thought I would share 2 newer trials that evaluated sleep methods of this sort:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27221288/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22966034/
And I have seen both and will share these 🙂
https://evolutionaryparenting.com/controlled-crying-cortisol-and-attachment-a-critical-look/
https://evolutionaryparenting.com/a-not-so-blind-review-of-the-recent-cio-research/
https://evolutionaryparenting.com/helping-baby-sleep/
https://evolutionaryparenting.com/mythbusting-sleep-training-claims-science-style/